Talk:Metroid: Other M

I think we can safely assume that it is for the DS. The wii has much higher graphical output then I saw in the trailer. Anyone object to me putting it in.  Metroidhunter32  18:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I do. Like Chozoboy said for the Aurora Unit 313 talkpage, it is a bad idea to speculate on this when it could easily go either way.--Tuckerscreator 18:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

You only looked at the YouTube vid, didn't you? ~1:04 ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 18:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Chozoboy, when I clicked the link, all I got was the end of a Sony briefing. Corruption378 19:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Damn. The page is for all of them. You'll just have to click the link on the sidebar. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 19:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Who the heck?
Was the chick at the beginning supposed to be Samus, or what? And does anybody know who that lady at the end was?

Corruption378 19:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

If we want to speculate... (Though I don't, really) We see an ice world and Samus is checking a fallen trooper outside. Based on the last game's ending, maybe that is Sylux? Whoever she is, she smiles creepy.

Also, we see Samus in the Varia throughout the entire trailer, meaning that it is after MZM. We also see the "Fusion style" Pirate. Also, you guys may have noticed that Samus's helmet is now pointed. This is sort of like Kreatz's ninja outfit. I'm going to guess that traditional ninjas probably had similar hoods. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 19:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Looked more like the "chozo pirates" from the manga, if you ask me. Dazuro 20:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Didn't look too close, but the purple/green made me think Fusion. Anyone still doubting the manga as canon anymore? ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 20:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

New images!

Trailers:
 * http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/24954
 * http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14354733/metroid-other-m/videos/metroid_trl_e3_otherm_060209.html

ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 20:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, ChozoBoy, me. But if this game does have specific reference to the manga, then suppose I will have to grudgingly accept the manga as canon. But I haven't seen anything in the trailers yet that reinforces the manga, though given that this seems to be a prequel game, then it will either have to or not. No escaping it now. (Sings: I'm still riding the old horse now, waving the battle flag, fighting in my one-man army, everyone else looking at me confused and creeped.)--Tuckerscreator 20:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Adam's design is straight out of the manga, right down to the hat. And the pirate is almost certainly one only seen in the manga until now. Still need more references? Dazuro 20:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

That pirate looked like any other Pirate, to me at least. As for Adam, maybe.--Tuckerscreator 20:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it's definitely the Fusion design, after seeing it in high-res. And that's awfully hypocritical of you, since you kept saying Fusion drastically changed the pirates on that damn history page of yours... But whatever. And how is Adam 'maybe'? You're just being stubborn at this point. Even if nothing else comes from the manga, there's no denying that Adam is straight out of it. Dazuro 20:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

A few random thoughts, does that "Remember me?" guy remind anybody of Armstrong Houston? Second, though we don't know who that woman is at the end, I have a sneaking suspicion that this person is related to Samus, as in some sort of sister. All I have to say is that I predicted this type of game quite well! Well, somewhat. It certainly does have the level of edge which I was referring to. (Check back on this forum to compare everyone's predictions to the actual result! A lot of you were just as accurate in prediction.) As for this being a product of the Manga, I think that it's safe to say that elements from the Manga would make its way into the game, considering that this is a joint effort with developers from Nintendo, with some of the people which developed the manga in the first place. Armantula513 [ADMIN] (Talk&bull;Contribs) 21:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Houston was white, had a big beard, and a completely different helmet design. All they have in common is blue armor... Dazuro 21:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

What Fusion pirate? I'll watch the trailer again but it looked like it was from Super Metroid, not Fusion. And again, Dazuro, control your temper. Nobody here wants to hurt you or provoke you so don't do that to other people.

I'm still "maybe" on Adam. There are similarities but frankly, I'm going to need more than just one person. Like I said before, if the manga is reinforced in this game then I'm shot down. But, honestly, try bring this up AFTER the game has come out and you've beaten it. Then we can talk. But it's too early to tell here.

Maybe the bounty hunter guy was Weavel? It did look like his helmet, and the scene immediately cuts to Samus beating up a Space Pirate with same color armor as that guy. But why would Weavel be a human? Though it does explain why his design and stance was different than all the other Pirates in Prime Hunters. Since this game seems to be a prequel, they might try to explain how he first got "blown up." Which would mean we'd see Zebes in this game. But this is only a theory.--Tuckerscreator 21:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's not Weavel. Weavel's "voice" in Hunters was the same as all the other pirates from the Prime games, after all. Dazuro 21:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Weavel had a voice? What did it sound like?--Tuckerscreator 21:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * .... I just SAID what it sounded like. That was the entire crux of my argument. Please actually read things before you comment on them. Dazuro 21:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I meant, which Pirate voice? The roaring voice they had in Prime, the screechy voice they had in Zero Mission, or the slurpy voice they had in Metroid Prime 3?--Tuckerscreator 21:35, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ..... When I say "the Prime games" why the hell would I mean Zero Mission? I meant the ones from Prime 1 and 2, and occasionally in 3. Obviously. Dazuro 21:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it's safe to say this... This looks Nothing like Metroid. It looks decent, but it looks like a fighting game to me. Also, i don't wanna flame, just wanna say what i thought. -- Jay feather 21:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

The roaring voice then, right? And he does this when he gets hurt or something? I'm just curious.--Tuckerscreator 21:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey! That's an idea! What if this isn't a sequential game at all, but a Metroid-themed fighting game?--Tuckerscreator 21:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC) I think it might be that mission Adam died in. Samus is cool 3  talk{ROLLBACKAH} 21:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I know I'm not a member, but I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me on this particular point: I really, really'' hope they change the name by the end of the development cycle, because for me, 'Other M' is a terrible title. I'm hoping they are just using it to refer to a new style of Metroid, hence the "other".''

The name shortens to "MOM" and "Other M" is an anagram for "Mother". Seems interresting. Very Japanese, too. We have to get used to Metroid being japanese again.

The voice occurs for diffferent reasons/actions, but that isn't really important. I don't think this will be a fighting game or low on story. Its being done by TN, so we should just expect it to be a mix between Ninja Gaiden, Metroid Prime, classic elements, and some new twists. I expect it to be story-heavy. All of the people that wanted bounty-hunting sidestories are probably the target audience/aim, here. That is just a guess, though.

Looked like there was a Kihunter in there too! During the fight with the longtialed purple lizard, there is a cloaked enemy next to it. I see doors with green or red markings on them. My best guess is that this game just has a dynamic fight system. Like in RE4, where after you daze someone, you can go up to them and trigger a kick attack. Ninja Gaiden is probably like this, but I've only played the older and DS ones. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 22:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The lizards are chameleon things. The cloaked thing is just another one of those. But there is definitely a kihunter after that scene. Dazuro 22:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I really hope that Team Ninja takes into consideration all of the mythos that has been built up before this. To have Mother Brain attacking some area with its mechanical body goes against it being on Zebes before anything else, and the new Varia design (Besidse looking rather goofy, in my opinion) isn't in line with the end of Zero Mission. I know everything we've seen isn't final and we're just guessing based on prior knowledge, but it seems to say alot about this game's content. Time will tell, I guess. Zeruel21 22:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, they got Adam down pat to his catchphrase from Fusion and his design from the manga, so clearly they're at least doing some research. As for the suit design, it's based off the one from M2 and SM it seems, without all the extraneous lights. That has nothing to do with continuity, chances are. We don't know where MB is, or even if that's her (it might be another brain thing with a similar body, or something). You're making a lot of judgments with very little basis here. Dazuro 22:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think I'll phrase my response like this: As a Trekkie, I looked forward to the new Star Trek film, but I was concerned that with all the recasting and other changes that it would be an inferior film compared to, say, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, which is my favorite. Now I consider it to be one of the best Star Trek films ever.  Just goes to show where judging something based on what little you know before its release can do.  -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} (Talk&bull;Contribs&bull;Logs) 22:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Psych experment: Does anyone else see something when MB fires the beam? (I loved ST too, even though I was half-expecting Spock to start cutting brains out.) ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 23:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Some people are thinking that the numbers on the top here may be related to the date. I doubt that's been finalized, though. You guys don't think those blue meteors in the beginning are Phazon, do you? ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 23:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * New theory! Remember Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles? I suspect this might be similar--jumping around to different points in the 'Troid timeline. That would allow us to have Adam, Super-era Mother Brain, Phazon, etc all at once, as well as introducing new stuff. That would also allow for integration of so many gameplay types--maybe the first-person bits are Phazon-related, etc. Think Kirby Superstar--a bunch of games each with their own storyline, but slightly different gameplay, and all linking up in the end. It could work. Dazuro 23:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, gentelmen, I have a rebuff for your argument on Armstrong Houston. The man in the trailer was black, Armstrong was white. AS far as I'm concerned, it's probably one of the GFPD people that she worked with in the manga. It looks like it's probably based on the manga to me, because there was a battle with Ridley and Mother Brain prior to Zero Mission, re-read the manga and come back to this page. Parkersvx90210 23:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I've been considering that, Daz. Parker: Sam didn't get the Varia EVER at any point in time until the end of the manga. That guy doesn't look like the guys she worked with. Visibly, I'd guess that the guy was white. The main reason people are making the Armstrong jump is the line he says, followed by his suit color. I'm not going to guess at that any more, though. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 23:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

You're true in your reasoning for the Varia suit, but keep in mind that for some reason she ALWAYS starts out with the Varia suit (Metroid Fusion, anyone?) we seem to forget about her first power suit and the Gravity Suit. What I interpreted was her yellow power suit, just with different looking shoulder blades. I'm pretty sure that you start out with it in this game. Parkersvx90210 00:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I noticed that same thing Parker, but I thought I was just crazy. I also thought that it switched to showing her in the orange one after she [Samus] says, "It's time to go...".&#39;&#39;&#39;Dark Samus will find Sakurai... Dark Samus will slaughter him... and Dark Samus will be in SSB4... Except, without Sakurai, there is no SSB4&#39;&#39;&#39; 00:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Star Trek was pretty awesome, and I didn't even know who Scotty was! I will say this about this new Metroid game: it was completely different than what I was expecting nintendo to do next. I was expecting for them to either follow-up with a 2-d game or a sequel to corruption regarding that mysterious ship. Everyone else I spoke to beleived this too. So when I heard about his, it completely blew my mind. It's nice to know that Nintendo isn't going to just stick to the tried-and-true formulas of old games. After all, experimentation was how Metroid Prime got to become the best Gamecube game ever.--Tuckerscreator 00:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, TC.

Samus "always" starts out with the Varia because she received it from Grey Voice. She's never had it before this point, which is during the events of Metroid. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 00:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

True once again, but at the end of Super Metroid everybody knows that she ends with the gravity suit, same with Metroid Prime and then in Hunters she somehow starts out with the varia suit again. The Gravity suit can withstand lava, breathe underwater, and reduce damage another 25%. Why would she want to switch back to it? Parkersvx90210 00:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, ChozoBoy, I think you made a mistake. Grey Voice gives Samus A Varia Suit, but he doesn't give her the VariaSuit that has the huge shoulders. She gets that one later from the Chozo Hieroglyphic.--Tuckerscreator 00:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

No, that is the Power Suit that is "legendary", not a Varia. You already "have" that upgrade, just no suit. Its just the Varia/Gravity that is noticably different in appearance.

Parker, maybe she doesn't have a choice? We don't know and we avoid speculating. Maybe its power has a battery that dies, or the Chozo desgined this tool to "degrade" over time so powerful people wouldn't be able to run around the universe with this tech. It is supposed to be earned and used on the spot, after all. Heck, maybe she stores her upgrades for times when she thinks she'll need them. She obviously didn't end up needing that one in Hunters. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 03:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the "chick at athe beginning of the trailer" is, in fact, samus. Also the dude at the beginning of the trailer is probably Adam Malkovich (hell yes!) because he asked her "any objections, Lady?" (Check Metroid Fusion if u don't believe me)My question is who was the black guy who said "rememeber me?"? And if u look up the trailer on the E3 website it's for Wii, not DS. SxyBeast 18:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Possible Story line Events
If this game does indeed occur before Metroid Fusion, and the character seen is indeed Adam, I believe we may see how he died within the Metroid universe, though this is only a theory on what may occur. Dark Ridley 03:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

About the Mother Brain part
Seems like you haven't noticed that the MB part of the trailer was the last Fight of Super Metroid, MB kills the last metroid and samus gets the hyper mode (and she charges a mega powerful beam).

As i commeted recently with some friends i guess the games traverse around various Metroid games... or just haves lots of cut scenes that explains Samus history (which puts the game between Spuer Metroid and Metroid Fusion.


 * Don't worry, we all noticed MB and you guys need to sign your comments. I'm not entirely convinced that it is a compilation. Assuming that it is not any kind of remake, I see the most likely places to fit this would be between MZM and Prime or Prime 3 and MII. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 03:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought Nintendo said that part of this was a story about Samus' childhood, suggesting it's giving more detail to her time in the GF police. Of course, that doesn't mean that it could cover multiple areas that the other games have left blank (Between MZM and Prime and Prime 3 and MII seem most likely to me), or even retell in better graphics parts of the other games. I also second the thought that the new suit is the Power Suit with a new design, as a part of Team Ninja's mark on the series. Zeruel21 14:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

New Plot Details
1up just did an interview with Yoshio Sakamoto (Metroid creator) and Yusuke Hiyashi (head of Team Ninja), and they made some confirmations:

1. That is Adam in the trailer

2. The game takes place between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion

3. The lab-coat woman at the end is not Samus, but another very important character.

LINK TO THE INTERVIEW:

&#39;&#39;&#39;Dark Samus will find Sakurai... Dark Samus will slaughter him... and Dark Samus will be in SSB4... Except, without Sakurai, there is no SSB4&#39;&#39;&#39; 23:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait, were people actually doubting that that was Adam? WTF? He has the same hat and facial shape and utters "any objections, lady?"... Dazuro 23:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also stated in the interview was that the guy with the helmet is one of Adam's soldiers. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 00:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me, or did the scene featuring Ridley look suspiciously similar to the cutscene prior to fighting him in Super Smash Bros. Brawl? This probably has no significance whatsoever, but I can't believe I didn't make that connection before.EvanEtrics - Other D 01:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 01:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's an awesome reference. I'm not too sold on the new Ridley model though.... Dazuro 01:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm just glad it's not "Omega-Phazon-Meta-Mecha-Cyber-Ridley". I guess that's why this is a prequel... [[User:EvanEtrics|EvanEtrics]], The Other D 01:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Prequel? This takes place after every single Ridley variation we've seen yet except Neo Ridley... Dazuro 01:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, sorry. I didn't mean it like that. But I'd love for someone from Nintendo to explain how the hell Ridley keeps on coming back of being explodified ten times. Maybe Other M will cover this detail? EvanEtrics, The Other D 01:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Manga beatcha to it. As explained on his own page on this wiki, it features Ridley consuming the cells of dead bodies to restore his own. It's not like he actually disintegrates completely, after all. Dazuro 01:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, I should probably... you know... read some more articles. I've never read the manga either... EvanEtrics, The Other D 01:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Living Body Arms Development Lab?
Look at this: http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/metroid-other-m-f-by-f/319769

It is a frame by frame video of the trailer. At the end it shows that on the computer screen it says Living Body Arms Development Lab. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 01:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The host speculated that cloning was going on there. It could be a Metroid cloning unit, as we know that that woman is not a Samus double. In Fusion, there was the Metroid Quarantine room that had dozens of them floating around. Maybe this lab is where they were cloned?EvanEtrics, The Other D 02:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

About the graphics
I'd like to know how much development time the game has (I read somewhere it began in 2007!) because some in-game scenes had poor graphics, mostly the FPS part. The Wii can do it much better I think, not as good as the cinematics of course, but it could be better than brawl.DIM87 03:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Fusion was hideous pre-release. As was Prime 1. And Zero Mission had that abysmal cartoon style. Metroid games never look as graphically shitty as the trailers make them out to be. Of course, they also tend to remove the cool scenes... (Damn you, Parasite Queen!) Dazuro 19:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
That thing takes up almost half the page. Could somebody make it the standard size?Zabbeth 18:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

hi
This seems to me that this is a continuation of metroid prime hunters or something like that. The graphics seem to "cartoony" to be a metroid game from the trilogy. --99.243.126.7 20:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Er... It isn't like Hunters at all. It isn't from "the trilogy" either. Metroid characters have always been stylized. Play Super Metroid. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 22:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)