User talk:Dazuro

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THANK YOU!!
Thanks for removing the fanon on those pages. I was starting to think they would never be rewritten. MarioGalaxy2433g5 { talk /contribs/Logs} 22:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Categories
You are supposed to categorize articles using '['s not '{'s. Yeah, I'm a category freak. MarioGalaxy2433g5 { talk /contribs/Logs} 20:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
I see you everywhere, you should apply to be an admin. I'd back you. 141.151.89.65 00:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

X-Ray visor
What you said is true about the space pirates. They did make this visor. I was thinking of the original in the first Prime. However I still don't think they were meant for each other as the nova beam was used as a mining tool and no pirates use it as a weapon. I will leave it alone though. Metroidhunter32 22:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I suppose your right, I just never saw it used on samus so I never thought about that. I assumed that the phazite on the control panels was the result of walls collapsing over the panels. Your right. Thanks for catching me. Metroidhunter32 01:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the Jolly Roger Drones had used the Nova Beam to modify the Energy Cores in the planetary Shield Generator on the Homeworld (according to the short cutscene). Most of the Remorse-class Turrets, too, use a green beam (in the later levels), while a lot of the earlier ones use a red beam. Nova technology, perhaps? Miles07, unregistered guest, 8:27, 19 September 2008 (PST)

Huh?
What is ZM? Just put it under the first Intangible lava heading.

Thanks. Metroidhunter32 11:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Templates
I noticed that you nominated a page for speedy deletion because it was fanon, however, you did not correctly transclude the template. Tempates have two braces, like {&#123; followed by the template name and two ending braces, &#125;}. In this case, the template you want is d, so you would use, where is the reason why the page should be deleted, in this case, fanon, so it would look something like this:'

Good job on the hunt for fanon, -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} (Talk&bull;Contribs&bull;Logs) 04:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

3D Models...
I noticed that here you have a 3D model of a creature in Corruption. Where can one get these models? ~-Miles07 16:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * (in response)

Oh. 'Kay then. Well, I have a fellow fangamer friend that is in disparate need of Meta Ridley and Omega Ridley models, seeing as there aren't any good pictures of him (in either form) from Corruption, and the videos showing him are poor quality and very dark. Is if alright if you can, well, "donate" a few pictures OR the model to me so that I can give it/them to him? ~-Miles07 21:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Where can I download the models from? Do you plan on putting them up for download? I'm sure they would come in handy to a lot of people.Superliger

Space Pirate History Edit
I noticed that one the Space Pirate History page, you removed the section about the Pirates' differing physiology compared to previous encounters. I'm actually the original writer of the article, before it was moved to its own page, and I felt it was important to include this part because the Space Pirates, while they did look different in every game, mantained a basic reptilian structure. But in Metroid Fusion, their forms were so much more different than previously that I even began to question whether these were really Space Pirates, if it hadn't been for the fact that the game clearly identified them as such. I would like to keep this part and you kept removing it when I put it back up, so I would like to have your agreement first. User:Tuckerscreator 17:05 24 April 2009

Um... Fusion's look extremely similar to Super's, especially when compared to Prime's and such... Other than the beak and back-fins, there's no real difference. And that same kind of pirate also exists in the manga alongside regular crab-pirates and Chozo-enhanced pirates, so clearly it's not just an X-mutation. Dazuro 00:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand that when one considers the fact they had only appeared once before in Super Metroid that their new appearance doesn't seem that drastic but new concerns have to come up when new canon comes in. The forms in Prime and beyond look simply like 6 ft hunch-backed reptiles but the form in Fusion are nearly 8 feet tall, have beaks, feathery tufts on their heads, are very skinny, and the claws appear to be part of their body. When one considers this compared to later games, it appears to be a large sign of X enhancement, which we clearly saw them do to other bio-forms on the BSL station. If you don't want me to change it, I'll leave the page the way it is, but I feel it is a curious mystery trhat needs to be touched on in some manner. User:Tuckerscreator 18:05 24 April 2009

This sounds like something that could use some visual comparisons. I've only vaguely looked at the normal side-scrolling type and compared them, but I'd like to see how these variations occur in the manga, as I hadn't noticed that differentation outside of the Chozo-bioengineered variety. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 01:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Tucker, Fusion's look like slightly modified Super's. You acknowledged that yourself. Why is it necessary then to mention them specifically? The claws appeared to be parts of their bodies in SM as well, and in Echoes. We already adress that issue in their physiology section--there is no need to be redundant and give Fusion special treatment. Also, they're about ten feet tall in Prime--they just usually hunch over. When standing tall, they're freaking massive. Chozo, the Fusion pirates can be found here: http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/mzm/manga/2.16e/metroid_v2_ch16_132.png and http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/mzm/manga/2.16e/metroid_v2_ch16_131.png Dazuro 01:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Aren't those the Chozo-Pirates? ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 13:44, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Look closer. There's a single Fusion-style pirate among the horde. It's even doing the exact same pose from its official art in one panel. Dazuro 18:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood my statement, Dazuro. What I really said was when one considers that Fusion was the only Metroid game since Super Metroid, then the change doesn't seem as drastic. But when new canon begins to appear, meaning the Prime games, then new concerns have to be brought up about old canon material. For example, Ridley is Super Metroid was completely organic, which was understandable back when the game was released. But with the introduction Meta-Ridley and his explosive "death"(for lack of a better word) in Corruption, new concerns have to brought up over why he is now organic again. When new caonon turns up, previous canon has to be not discarded, but simply re-evaluated.

The height of the Pirates in Fusion is 8ft tall, but this is not due to any change in posture. If one looks closely at them, you can that they too are hunchbacks. Their increase in height is simply due to longer legs and torsos. The Pirates in Metroid Prime, where they appear mostly armorless, can be seen to actually be unable to change their posture because the neck is connected directly to the front of the chest. The erect-standing Pirates in Echoes and Corruption, however, have their neck going up from the shoulders like humans, yet they still stand only 6 feet tall, rather than 8. This suggests to me that, their hunched build is not something that can not be changed solely by stance but is their actual body build that can not be changed short of genetic alteration.

The Pirate in 2002 manga is most likely a Chozo Pirate. Prior to this scene, all the Pirates looked virtually the same. This one also missing several key components of the Fusion Pirate, notable. it has one long mane going down the neck here, rather Fusion's two tufts on the side of the head. Its eyes are also too small and one can not tell what color it is. I don't want to turn this into aprolonged debate, but I feel it is an important issue that needs to re-evlauted in the Space Pirate History article. User:Tuckerscreator 11:26 25 April 2009

The pirates in Prime 1 actually do stand tall several times. Also, the pirates in Echoes and Corruption are enormous. They don't look very tall due to the first-person perspective, but I have the models ripped straight from the game. Depending on the Pirate, Samus goes anywhere from their crotch to their mid-chest. As for the one in the manga... I think you're looking at the wrong pirate. There's one that is literally identical to Fusion's art, right down to the pose. It has no mane--the "chozo pirates" do, but the Fusion pirate has the feathers on the back of its neck. It has a separated beak, it has the fins on its back, it has the different claw indentation design, it has the "third eye" on the forehead. It is the Fusion design in every way. Also, your history is way off there--this is one of the final scenes in the manga. The pirate varieties first started showing up a long time ago, back in the first few chapters of Volume 2, I believe. The Fusion design doesn't appear until the very final chapter, but the "chozo" and "scythe" Pirates have been appearing for quite some time now--so it's hardly fair to say that they've all looked virtually the same. Now, back to the height issue: Take a look at Prime 1's pirates' stance. Not only are their backs hunched, but they stand with their upper legs nearly parallel to the ground, at a very awkward-looking spread-leg stance. Despite being hunchbacked and crouching all at once, they are STILL a fair amount taller than Samus's 6-foot figure. Fusion's are no bigger than normal--in fact, since their legs are stretched out, an argument could be made that they're actually shorter than usual. Dazuro 18:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops, you were right, I was looking at the wrong Pirate in the manga pictures. The other picture does look very much like the one in Fusion. Could you show a picture of the ripped Pirate game models in comprison to Samus? Also, correct me if I misunderstood, but are you saying that the Pirates increased height is due not to back position, because it is a fixed spine, but rather to how they spread out their legs? User:Tuckerscreator 14:27 25 April 2009

I would very much love to show those ripped models, but alas, the computer they're on has busted USB ports and no internet, so I have no idea how to get them to this computer, much less to you. I'll try to get ahold of the original source, but I haven't seen him online in a while. As for the legs--well, that's somewhat correct, but not entirely. The leg spread DOES vary between games, but the overall height does not. Well, it does, but not nearly as much as it should. The result is that while Prime 1's are much taller in pure physical terms than any other Pirate (at least, according to my memory, though that may be faulty--perhaps the others end up edging them out from the altered torso), they all end up standing about the same height above Samus--as you put it, approximately 8 feet.

And yes, I'm well aware that I know and care far too much about a fictional species. <3 Pirates. Dazuro 00:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all! One potential simple solution to get the image would be to take a picture, if you've got a camera/cam-phone available. I'd love to see a line-up of all of the Pirates in relation to Samus in each game. That would be pretty impressive. ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 01:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. That would be awesome. Thanks for the info, Dazuro and Chozoboy. User:Tuckerscreator 25 19:28 2009

Thanks
I was still catching up on patrolling other areas, but you don't have to worry about that type of thing getting overlooked. (Or another admin patrolling it, it would seem. X_x) ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 23:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

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I need your source
Hey, Dazuro, I'm working on fixing the sources and references section of the History of the Space Pirates article, and I need your source for where you put that "the Pirates' presence on the station was considered alarming by the Federation and appeared to be to assist their plan for galactic conquest." I believe you got it from the Metroid fusion website?--Tuckerscreator 15:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You believe correctly. Dazuro 17:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Airthron Question
I was reading the page that talked about the removed creatures called airthorns. So I went to the location the it said it was and it wasn't there. Where did you get that picture of it?-FissionMetroid101 3/15/09

Warning

 * Note: This post has been carbon copied on User talk:ChozoBoy. It is intended to be read by both of you.


 * Personally, I agree with Dazuro. Since it cannot be proven that he actually does appear, a note in the article body explaining the theory would be best.  However, this is besides the point I am trying to make.  Firstly, please remember that I (and MarioGalaxy2433g5) have the power to give and take administrator rights, if necessary.  I just want you to keep this in mind as you proceed.  That said, Dazuro, I think your behavior has been deplorable.  You have no excuse for personally attacking other editors, even if you think they are in the wrong.  Since you initiated the action with your first edit to the page, you are required to explain your reasoning if asked to.  In any case, you are very close to crossing the line.  If this continues, I will block you for personally attacing other editors.


 * To prevent a situation, I am issuing an arbitrary ban. Neither of you will be allowed to edit the Sylux page for the next seven days, expiring on 19 July 2009 (UTC) or on my notice. If you violate this ban (which must be enforced by a human), you will be blocked.  I expect a civil discussion to occur on the talk page.  In addition, you may not modify the portion of the page being discussed unless a clear consensus emerges on the talk page.  If no consensus emerges, then it stays as it is.


 * Just to clarify, administrators may not unblock themselves if blocked as part of a disciplinary action. Unblocking yourself will result in loss of your admin powers.


 * You two are some of our best editors. I really expected better.


 * If you have any comments, please direct them to me personally. -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} (Talk&bull;Contribs&bull;Logs) 07:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My main problem here is with the history. Perhaps I was in the wrong here, but CB does have a history of abusing his power in debates with me. Just look at the Berserker Lord fiasco. We had a long debate on the talk page, came to a conclusion. I edited the page to amend the situation so that both positions were given equal representation. He responded by warning me, blocking the page, and re-editing it to say that he was right. To this day he has yet to apologize or admit liability in anything he's done. No, he's not always wrong, but he has wronged me repeatedly. I can accept that. People make mistakes. But they need to own up to them--especially the "leaders" of the community. If even the admins don't admit when they mess up, what kind of message is that sending to the regular editors? If he'd simply man up and fess up, I'd get off his case. I've apologized for my actions in the past. I've acknowledged when I made mistakes. He's never done any of that. I will not tolerate that. That said, I know I'm in the right about Sylux--and come on, "doing a disservice" by mentioning it? Bullshit. However, he is correct--we both violated the 3RR, and the issue should have been settled here, not in edit-histories. I do apologize for my actions in this case. You'll never hear that from him, of course. Dazuro 17:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Armstrong Houston in Super Metroid.
Hey there Dazuro ,I don't know if I'm doing this right, all I wanted to do was send you a message.

But isn't the power suit you find in SM the same as Houston's? THey look very similar, I forget where in the game I last remember seeing it in Super Metroid (it was near a power up I think, he had some goo on the shoulder pads,

Sorry for bugging you, and thanks for reading.
 * Hmm? Why are you contacting me specifically about this? Either way, you need to sign your posts. Anyway... No. Houston's suit is blue and has a fairly different shape. The dead guy (I assume that's what you mean? The dead trooper by Kraid?) is grey and appears to be a GF Trooper, or at least the inspiration for the troopers' designs later on. Dazuro 17:30, 19 July 2009 (UTC)