Talk:Metroid Wiki/Archive 2

Logo
This wiki really needs a logo. ~ Stellar Star 23:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * See Forum:Logo.--Richard1990 talkedits 17:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article (Again)
How is the featured article determined? Do we vote? How often is it changed? I vote for Zebes to be the next featured article. ~ Stellar Star
 * The FA is not changed regularly at the moment. >_> I think Zebes would be a fine replacement. BambookidX 18:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna make the FA change every week, I'll just pick a random page or you can request it to be one. Maybe when we get bigger we can do voting on which page should be featured.--Richard1990 talkedits 02:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Main Page look
I've changed the look of the Main Page. I removed some stuff because I don't think they deserve to be on the Main Page.--Richard1990 talkedits 17:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The cainges to the main page you made just made it look worce, the longer vershion looked much more profenshonal and inviting. If you look at the The Legend of Zelda Wiki, Nintendopedia, Wookieepedia, The Mass Effect Wiki ,the TimeSplitters Wiki, the Battlestar Wiki, even Wikipedia and many more, you will see that they all have main pages that fill the screen. it feels much more finished and encoreges reading the rest of the wiki. I am chainging it back. JosephK19 16:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Samus picture
Ahh... that picture of Samus Aran is really badly pixellated. I'll make something, if you don't mind.
 * It's in a JPEG file, so it's going to be pixellated. However, you can click the image to make it bigger and see it in its entirety. The image has to be small on the Main Page so it takes up less room.--Richard talk 18:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Power suit Question
how come at the end of every game samus loses all the pwoer ups that she got in the game. for exa,ple in metroid prime she get the thermal visor the x ray visor and she gets the ice beam the wave beam and the plasma beam. she also gets the gravity suit upgrade. how come at the begging od Metroid prime 2:echoes she didn't star out wuth these. I know that she loses the phazon suit to dark samus.
 * No idea. It's like this with most Metroid games. Well, it won't be much fun playing MP2 at the beginning with all beams and all upgrades for most people eh?--Richard talk 17:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

As for the Gravity Suit that Samus obtained in Prime, that was mutated into the Phazon suit, so for Metroid Prime to steal the Phazon Suit it would leave Samus just with her Varia suit. Both Prime and Fusion give reasons for the loss of equipment. There must be some missions she goes on that results in the damage causing the loss of her upgrades like seen in Prime just before planet fall. 24.127.3.102
 * Actually you don't lose the Gravity Suit along with the Phazon Suit in Metroid Prime. If you look at the cutscene after Samus loses the Phazon Suit you'll notice the Gravity Suit is still there. So we don't know why that one you lose. MarioGalaxy2433g5 22:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Well the question is whether the gravity suit would work on other planets or not, as for the weapons it could be that the weapons are illegal and so Samus has to give them up. Lord Leroy 20:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The Galactic Federation wouldn't consider Samus' weapons illegal due to the fact they trust her. MarioGalaxy2433g5{Metroid/Mario/Pokemon} {talk/contribs/Logs} 20:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybey dark samus took all of her beams and visors. The gravity suit I can't explain.  Thisnameisutternonsence

How about an even bigger conundrum! The Power Suit's design changes (at least slightly) nearly every game - Especially in between Prime & Prime 2. How exactly would that work?Armantula513 09:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I just had a random thought about this section's main question. Do you suppose that Samus voluntarily removes all of her upgrades.... for sport? You know, for a challenge in combat? It may be unlikely, but you never know.....Armantula513 10:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC) Maybe she sells it off to the Federation to be used as scrap or to further their technology? Surely a hefty sum of money would be given for that technology. Perhaps this would explain the jump in Federation tech from Echoes to Corruption? Phazon Phantom 19:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this is more or less what I've come to assume. The way I see it, at the end of every mission, she submits her mission report along with all relevant articles and collects her bounty. Because really, it's more efficient for the Federation to have the technology then just one person, in case Samus can't always be on call. No doubt if she ever had to return to Aethyr under similar circumstances as Echoes, she would be assigned a dark suit for protection. DarkBurst 8:08, 13 January 2009 (PTC)

I think that just has to do with the Galactic Federation discovering Phazon, and then incorporating it into several tactical systems..... Do you think that it was really that much of a jump? The GFS Tyr was only a scout vessel, so the crew wouldn't have had many resources on hand when crash landing on a planet. If something like GFS Olympus had to make an emergency landing, they would have been set for months. A rm ant ula 513 01:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Samus loses her powerups to the Ing at the beginning of MP2... Onion pistol 23:31, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

The Countdown
The countdown to Metroid Prime 3 seems to end on noon of the 27th... should it not end on midnight of the 27th/28th? I am not sure how to fix this regardless.
 * I changed it to August 28 at 12:00 a.m. It's in stores on the 28th.--Richard 18:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks man.

Actually, I'm gonna change it to August 27 at 12:00 a.m. Various sites that are selling the game say they'll sell it on the 27th, even though the preview channel says its in stores on the 28th.--Richard 02:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No no, that's the ship date. Sites are alowed to sell it on the 27th so players will recieve it on the release date of the 28th. That's the disputed difference between "ship date" and "street date." It is true some people/stores get this mixed up, and a handful of gamers managed to pick this game up early, but in reality and by nintendo's intention no one is supposed to recieve this game until the 28th. Dromel 17:41, 27 August 2007
 * I got it today, my bro bought it at Wal-Mart. It's released anyway.--Richard 22:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikia Gaming footer
I went ahead and added a Wikia Gaming footer to the bottom of the Main Page. We're trying to get Wikia's gaming wikis more linked with each other. It's not mandatory, so you can remove it if you really hate it, but it would be appreciated if you didn't :). You can change the links to point to any other wikia wikis you like or cooperate with. Ausir 02:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a bit large but I'll leave it in. However if people start complaining about it I'll consider deleting it though I don't think I'll really have to.--Richard 02:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If it's too big, you could always reduce or remove the image - the links are more important than the logo :). Ausir 04:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

New Main Page
I made a new version of the main page design: Main Page/New. If you like it, you can replace the previous one with it. If you don't, you can suggest some improvements, improve it yourself or simply stick to the old one :). Ausir 04:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploading Images
I'm having trouble uploading images. Anyone else? Gaiacarra 15:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Tell me about it. I don't know how to get the file name. (MarioGalaxy2433g5 13:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Conformation
I move that we create a structure to which all pages must conform. For example, all pages on enemies will conform to one structure, items to another, areas to yet another, etc. .. I shall create a page where we can discuss this. Gaiacarra 12:43, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Forum:Outlines Gaiacarra 13:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Gaming wiki chat this Sunday!
Hi all,

On Sunday October 14th there is going to be an IRC chat for gaming wikis at the #wikia-gaming channel. Contributors, admins, and foudners of all/all gaming-related wiki on Wikia are invited to discuss common issues that we might have, sharing our experiences, and helping each other out. The time of the chat will be:

Please help to spread the word, and hope to see you there!

-User:PanSola 16:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought I'd just make a little subnote, this is a very cool site, I had no idea there is a Metriod-Wiki! (I'm a Metriod Prime fan, I don't really enjoy the older 2-d games). - Me_just_in 

Images
the federation and space pirate pages are seriously lacking on the image front. Please upload some. JosephK19 08:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Fanon
It seems that there is a problem with fanon articals at the moment, so I have an idea (not a new idea, but an idea that will work) We start a new Wiki for metroid fanon. For those of you that like that sort of thing it would be perfect. Or if no one can be botherd making a new Wiki, we could simply make a category for Fanon articals. any articals with fanon in them should have a warning. Please post your opinion. JosephK19 21:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I personally believe this wiki should contain only canonical info, but creating a fanon header to let people know the page they're reading isn't canon would make me happy if we don't want to delete all that information. In any case, I'd feel a lot better about whatever I do to fanon if one of the administrators would back me up.  How about it, guys?  --Rundus 03:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I myself support the current policy - fanon should be deleted on sight. The reasons are mainly operational, such as wiki size on the database servers.  -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} ( Talk | Contribs | Logs ) 04:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * All right, thanks. I support that myself, but I wasn't aware it was current policy (you'd think the "do not submit fan-crated content" at the bottom of the editing page would have tipped me off). --206.174.50.28 07:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC) (This is Rundus, BTW; I forgot to log in before posting).


 * You know fan games useds to be mentioned on the main page. I think we should be abel to make pages about a fan created thing, but all info on it has to be on one page with a warning at the top. What do you think? JosephK19 20:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You were one of the people that mentioned them so what is your point. (I checked your contribs while your RFA was going on) MarioGalaxy2433g5{Metroid/Mario Admin} {talk/contribs/Logs} 22:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If I correctly remember the pages you are talking about, they were created before the fanon policy went into effect, so those pages are grandfathered under policy - they can exist, however, if you can direct me to the exact pages (all my searches come up empty), I can add the proper template that indicates this. -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} (Talk|Contribs|Logs) 03:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Go to Category:Fan games (for some reson a link woulded work). JosephK19 14:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * This is how you link to a category: type Category:NAMEOFCATEGORY replacing NAMEOFCATEGORY with the name of the category. Also Fan games are too minor to appear on the Main Page. MarioGalaxy2433g5{Metroid/Mario Admin} {talk/contribs/Logs} 16:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I wasn't saying thay should be on the main page. JosephK19 19:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

New userpage style
Until a formal vote can be held to decide on the main page style, it should be left as it is (that is why I rolled back JosephK19's edits). -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} ( Talk | Contribs ) 01:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Main Page Style Vote
The vote has ended. The result was change to new main page style.

This is an official vote to change or keep the style of the main page

Proposition: To change the main page style to the one here

There are two requirements for the main page style to change: sufficient editors support it (60% or more) and at least three people sing there names under the section "People willing to update the main page" to indicate that they are willing to update the featured article, archive the articles, update news, etc. on a weekly, weekly, and daily (respectively) notice. -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} ( Talk | Contribs ) 02:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Voice your opinion Current tally: 4 support, 1 oppose, 4 neutral, 2 willing to update main page 80% Support - Scheduled to end at 02:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) I am all for updating the main page. I think it makes the Wiki look much more inviting and profeshonal. The curent one is way to boring and many a time i have been put of spending much time on Wikitroid becose of it, I find this to be a shame as this realy is a great wiki. JosephK19 11:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I also like the new title page. The contents table is really handy for me as it helps me navigate through this site much easier. It also lets people get to more articles quicker, which will in turn make people come back to this site because it is quick and easy, which is what we want, right? And I also agree that it makes this site more inviting and professional. I support to update it! Jdfox11 22:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Much better than the current page in my opinion. The front page should have pointers to immediately interesting stuff, this one clearly has that... --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 18:50, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) I think the New home page is much easier to use. Navolas 17:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

People willing to update the main page

 * 1) JosephK19 11:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Jdfox11, added by FastLizard4 gathered from reading comment.  -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} ( Talk | Contribs | Logs ) 06:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Oppose -- The new userpage style could use more developing, for example, the list of categories should be fixed so it dosen't have all that empty space (that is unprofessional). -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} ( Talk | Contribs ) 02:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) I think the main page could use updating, but it should then be left that way. --User:Conpused
 * 2) I might be crazy, but it doesn't look too much different then te old one Statuary 21:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) The best thing we can do to make this wiki more professional is to make all the articles the best they can be.  I see no reason to update the main page when we have so much work to do elsewhere.  That said, I wouldn't complain if the page were updated, especially with a Metroid-y look. --Rundus 01:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) I think the Main Page could use a few updates. I would definitely like the return of Featured articles, but other than that I pretty much don't care. MarioGalaxy2433g5 20:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Remember the dead Samusesque body in Super Metriod?
Yeah, the dead person that looked like it was in a samus suit that the bugs were munching on? Anyone have any explanation for this? I was hoping that body would get cleared up when I first got super metroid,  but they never addressed the dead body, or why it was there.

Anyone have a clue?


 * Actually yes. See Forum:Houston Theories. MarioGalaxy {talk/contribs/Count} 16:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

The three most common theories I've heard are

1. Armstrong Houston

2. Weavel(his old body)

3. GF Trooper

User:Tuckerscreator 21:48 31 March 2009

The GF Trooper art in MP2E all seem to be based on that body, so that would be my guess. No clue what it's story is, though. ChozoBoy (Talk/Contribs) 05:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I would think that Nintendo would acknowledge this character in a future Metroid game, but I highly doubt that this character is any that has already been present in the series. Super Metroid remake in 2015? Okay, that's just completely made up, but something along the lines might answer the question in the future! A GF Trooper seems reasonable. It also bears a resemblance to the silver-clad researchers that accompanied Samus on her second mission to SR388. Armantula513 [ADMIN] (Talk&bull;Contribs) 20:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone have a picture of the body? I'd like to see a picture so we can make a better analysis. Also, is there an article on this body? If not then there should be. User:Tuckerscreator 14:54 April 1 2009

Main Page design mark II
Hullo! I'm Kirkburn, a Wikia Gaming Helper, I'm going to annoy you with news of a new Main Page design you might want to look at ;) You may be interested in stealing some code from w:c:starter which is the current new wiki base design. It makes content a bit easier to add and is easily expanded. I would personally also keep the sitenotice to one line to make it look less like page content. Anyway, keep up the great work! Kirkburn (talk) 22:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Scan in metroid prime : hunters
? anyone now how to scan for other hunters in wifi, multiplayer I know you have the little map but I heard you can scan the whole field once.

Approaching 1000 articles
We are getting close to reaching 1000 articles. When we were approaching 500 (I remember) we had a notice on the Main Page saying "Please help us reach our goal of 500 articles". Should we do something similar for 1000 articles? MarioGalaxy2433g5{Metroid/Mario Admin} {talk/contribs/Logs} 13:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Too late. Somebody already created the 1000th article. MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 22:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Collesium
Okay, how about we add in a collesium? I know that the Metroid Series doesn't have that many characters, but we don't need that! We can just use creatures from the throughout the series, such as Zoomers or the Ing. We could also use main characters,such as Admiral Dane or Noxus. Hey, I'm just shootin' out ideas here... If you like it, then alright... If not, then that works too... Lord Xale 19:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

So basically a popularity contest? Dark Ridley 19:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Colosseum makes it sound more like it would be a battle royal. Like every boss from every game starts fighting and who would be the last one alive. Metroidhunter32 20:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, ya know, we don't have to call it a collesium... I just couldn't think of a better way to put it... But yeah, bassically a poppularity contest... So uh, yeah... If any one supports or dissaproves, then just put your opinion somewhere on this section... So that's all for noww...Lord Xale 01:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Did you Know?
Could we get some new facts for the main page "Did you Know" section? Dark Ridley 21:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Main page update
I've been working on a main page update which you can see on User:Kirkburn/Dev. It is a fairly important update, and you can find out why on User talk:Kirkburn/Dev. I would love to get some feedback! I'm fairly happy with the current design, but if anyone wants to tweak - be my guest. Thanks! Kirkburn (talk) 13:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Can we add some new facts? Dark Ridley 16:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely not. The currant style is better than a long shot. Metroidhunter32 01:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, don't hold this against me, but I personally think that the style that Kirkburn came up with for the main page was easier to navigate...Lord Xale 01:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Whether that is true or not it is hideous. If I was a newb coming to the site, at the first glance of it I would turn away and find another site. Metroidhunter32 02:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you provide specifics? Is it the colour scheme, order of the information? I don't quite see how it is hideous - most importantly it has more information for the viewer. Kirkburn (talk) 15:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It looks like everything is being cramed into as small of a space as possible and the currant model just looks better. Metroidhunter32 00:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It does? What resolution are you viewing it at? I realise the sidebar is only 300px wide, but that's not that thin. Kirkburn (talk) 03:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * In the currant model everything has it's own space, in Kikiburn's it is all running alongside making it look like he was trying to create a model as thin as he possibly could. To really decide whether or not a newb would run we have to find a neb who has never known the website existed untill recently or has never made an edit.  Metroidhunter32 15:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a huge fan of that design either. It's so narrow all of the way down, and then there's just an empty space running down the right side of the bottom half! I'd rather have the main page stay the same. It's already familiar to us, and it wouldn't be daunting or intimidating to a visitor like this new design is. If I saw that design as a first-time visitor, I would leave immediately, because it's just too complex looking! Armantula513 11:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, just to jump in here... the problem with the current design is that it will break when the second ad is turned on - and that will be happening soon. I've made a quick page at User:Sannse/example page to show what I mean... if there is no 300px column on the right, then the whole page is pushed down by the ad.  That's what we are trying to avoid.  The other column will fit to the page, but the 300px needs to be there to stop the page breaking.
 * Perhaps this would work better with the original colours, just the one fixed width column? -- sannse (talk) 20:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't the ads be pushed to the empty blue space on the left side? Of course, the ad box wouldn't fit, but there are certainly people with narrow ads who would like to advertise there, which would relieve the need for there to be larger invasive & intruding ads in the main page space. Could someone please consider this proposal? Armantula513 20:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sure what empty blue space you are referring to? Unfortunately regarding ads, we are restricted to what advertisers will buy - but that does not mean we don't have choices.
 * I have updated User:Kirkburn/Dev to more closely resemble the current main page - what do you think? Kirkburn (talk) 21:03, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * lower the right collum so that it is level with the left and center the title and it looks good. Metroidhunter32 23:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the new version and I think it's quite nice, but I will leave the final decision up to popular demand from the community. -- FastLizard4 {ADMIN} (Talk&bull;Contribs&bull;Logs) 03:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I kinda like the new one better because there are more links. More links means getting around the wiki is easier. MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 13:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I've put in a spacer box, so you can see what effect the second ad has. With today's changes, these two ads are the only ones that logged in users will see - articles won't show them except to anons. So hopefully the overall balance is better.

I need to turn on that second ad very soon, and don't want to muck up your main page, so perhaps we could get the switch done soon? I'd suggest we give it another day or so for comments, and then make it live. More editing to tweak it to perfection can happen once it's live of course :) -- sannse (talk) 20:17, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

If possible put something small on the right hand collom so that it is the exact same size as the right and lower them so that they are level. Metroidhunter32 00:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The Kirkburn/Dev page just looks messy, I don't see why we don't just keep the old page but fit the new ad in the same way as on the Kirkburn/Dev one (and add more links to the contence box). If it where up to me we wouldent have a new ad (But i wouldent have a problem with another long ad like we have at the side(only horrorzontal) or a google adds aloung the bottom).JosephK19 07:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I've changed it round so that all the boxes are in the same places as on the current main page. The only differences are that the title and the featured article are within the left column rather than over the full width (which, for the title, would result in the ad pushing the whole page down).  You could add some content to the left column (say more "did you knows") to even them out a little more, but remember that every resolution will see this page a little differently, and evening out for one resolution will means it's less even for others.  But I don't think that's a big problem, even if it takes a little getting used -- sannse (talk) 11:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, I still like my last revision more than even the current main page design, but I respect that it's not everyone's preference. :) Kirkburn (talk) 11:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * like I said before get it so that the rows are the same size it will be good. The currant model of yours, Kikiburn, is the best one of any of yours.  Metroidhunter32 15:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Metroidhunter32, as I said, the comparative length of the columns depends on the resolution of the screen. So if we match the columns on one persons monitor, another person will see them as unmatched.  I'm trying to find a way around this, to force the cells to expand vertically to fill the space, but I'm not sure it's possible.  So, unless anyone else knows how to do that, I suggest we switch to this one tomorrow.  Then hopefully someone will be able to find the tweak to even the columns in the future - but it seems this version is as close as we are going to get for now! -- sannse (talk) 10:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ops! wasn't quite "tomorrow"... but it's switched now. Thanks all -- sannse (talk) 17:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

wikia gaming section at bottom of main page
Do you think you should change the games to some more related ones? (i.e nintendopedia,e.t.c)

-- Semaj draehs - Talk page - 10:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I do agree - it's what it's there for :) Kirkburn (talk) 16:00, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Is anyone going to make the change?

-- Semaj draehs - Talk page 22:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)